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2024 Election - Bone Face - 09-03-2025

In Spring of last year, a bunch of us from Maniac Nebula got emails from Demented, the site operator.  He wanted to know what our take on the 2024 election was.  Mostly, he was soliciting from mods, and I was no longer a mod.  I wanted to respond, though, and here's what I wrote:

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March 3, 2024

Aloha, Bonjour, Konnichiwa,
Ciao, Guten Tag, Privet,
Anyeong, and Ola …

How are you Maniacs doing?  It’s me, Bone Face, your favorite former moderator!  Space Ghost is working on some kind of thesis about why you should vote for Robert Kennedy Jr in November.  He told me that of the three candidates, RFK Jr would fit here at Maniac Nebula the best!  Why?  Because we’re maniacs!  He comes from a family of maniacs!  His uncle, JFK, fought the Federal Reserve and said,

“For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence; on infiltration instead of invasion; on subversion instead of elections; on intimidation instead of free choice; on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day …”

This quote was one of the reasons I joined this site.  There’s an irony, though.  Why is it that the real forum is at a different location?  Why do you need an embedded link to get there?  Why do you need a recommendation from a mod?  Or pass a test from Demented?

As we study conspiracies, we create our own.  What an irony!  The word “Jerusalem” means “City of Peace” but it’s known for violence.  Another irony!  When Trump first ran for president in 2015 he said,

“I don’t need anybody’s money.  It’s nice.  I don’t need anybody’s money.  I’m using my own money. I’m not using the lobbyists.  I’m not using donors.  I don’t care.  I’m really rich …”
Today, he puts out ads where he begs for five, ten, twenty-five dollars from poor people!  My sister is one of those people!  I know how she lives!  She’s broke, but she’s sending this loser money!  I hate it!

So is this another irony?  You be the judge.

I got into conspiracies because I knew they were there.  Before I heard about the Carnivore program, I intuitively knew the government was scanning emails for certain trigger words.  Before I heard of Edward Snowden, I knew the government was over reaching its powers.  And I speculated they were using psychic spies before I heard of RNM, remote neural monitoring.  I don’t trust the government!  I haven’t since I was a child.

As for politicians, I don’t trust them, either.  If my life was on the line and I could call a used car salesman or a politician to save me, I would call the used car salesman one hundred percent of the time.  The thing I discovered in life is that you become the thing you hate.

“Whomsoever I’ve cured
I’ve sickened now
And whomsoever I’ve cradled
I’ve put you down
I’m a search light soul they say
But I can’t see it in the night
I’m only faking when I get it right
When I get it right …”
— Fell On Black Days by Soundgarden

This site has gone through this.  You talk to people who have been here from the beginning.  We studied JFK and we were repulsed by the repugnant nature of the Establishment pawning us around in the shadows.  This used to be an open forum to the public!  I became a moderator and I dealt with all kinds of new members.  There were “know it alls” with esoteric understandings.  There were true maniacs!  These people operated with many screws loose, and they weren’t faking!  There were misguided people who thought they knew what was “really going on” but they were way off.  There were casual people with natural curiosities.  These people came together and I was glad to moderate their discussions.

Then there were the trolls and shills.  I think they did the site in.  At some point, there was a decision to create some kind of standard about who would be accepted to Maniac Nebula.  We became another one of those repugnant secret societies and that’s when I let Demented know I no longer wanted to moderate.

I’m not a religious person but I’ve picked up a lot of religious rhetoric from moderating religious discussion.  There’s a point when Jesus and his Apostles feel defeated.  This is the root of when Judas starts to turn to the dark side.  Jesus asks who they think he is.  Judas responded that he’s a great teacher, but Simon Peter went to the highest level. 
“You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
— Mathew 16:16

Later on, they start to lose followers.  They’re sitting around and Jesus asks the Apostles if they’re going to leave him as well.  Simon Peter responds, “To whom shall we go?”
I quit as a moderator at this site and I tried to stay away for a few months.  It was hard to do.  I created a sock account and I peeked in once in a while.  Wacky Taffy knew about this.  She’s one of my best friends.  I would hardly post, but it drove me nuts.  I had to be part of the Maniac Nebula again.  I revived my Bone Face name and I started to talk to the guys like the old days.  I was offered a moderator position, but I turned it down.  Discussions can get trite.  Too often, you must make judgements between two people you equally like.  Also, it gets to be like a high school where clicks form and they bully under-represented voices.  I don’t miss that part.

Space Ghost wanted me to chip in my two cents about the 2024 election.  This does not mean I plan to be a mod again, by the way.  It only means I poke my head above water, now and then.  People who know me understand my beliefs.  The motto of this site is, “Conspiracies, Extra-Terrestrials, and Good Times.”  The conspiracies don’t produce good times for me any longer.  Maybe that’ll change.  My stance has always been that the United States no longer exists as a functioning democracy since the implementation of the PNAC document which led to the destruction of the Twin Towers.  By showing up to voting booths, you are casting a vote for deception and corruption.  In 2013, Jimmy Carter said the United States has no functioning democracy, so it’s not just me.  It doesn’t matter who you mark on the ballot.  The purity of our system is gone.

I want to change my mind.  I really do.  Demented posted a John Oliver critique of the United States Supreme Court.  Very disheartening stuff.  When Donald Trump failed to get SCOTUS to overturn the 2020 election, he said they chickened out.  This dude is the definition of a man child!

When I was a kid, I played Little League baseball.  One day, I was watching my neighbor pitch.  I had played a game just before and I was still in uniform watching from behind the backstop fence.  It was a classic situation with two outs in the last inning where our school’s bully was at the plate with a runner on third and a chance to tie.

My neighbor struck the bully out, and the bully started to cry.

I walked to school with my neighbor the next morning and the bully was waiting for us at the gate.  The bully socked my neighbor in the stomach.  “Don’t tell anyone what happened!” he said.  Of course, word got around because other people from school were also there watching.  I watched the bully wiff really bad when he struck out, but the bully told a story that he went down looking.  The pitch was obviously a ball way outside of the strike zone.  The umpire had it in for him.  And when asked why he cried, he said he didn’t.  He was rubbing dirt out of his eyes.

Donald Trump threw the biggest tantrum in world history! He is a bully who doesn’t use logic well so he resorts to taunting and name-calling.  According to him, the Supreme Court chickened out last election.  I was proud back then that they “chickened out” and I was proud that Mike Pence “didn’t have the courage” to bail on the Constitution on Jamuary 6, 2021. Of the three branches of government, the Supreme Court was the last bastion of purity and decency.  It showed cracks when Antonin Scalia handed the 2000 election to his conservative ally, George W Bush.  Now?  Lawyer Alina Habba says Brett Kavanaugh will “step up” for Trump as a quid pro quo favor.  What bullshit!  Right?  You can’t make this stuff up!  The corruption is beyond repair.  It doesn’t matter who the next president is.

The bully who struck out became a good guy, by the way.  In high school, he got into ska music and became somewhat effeminate.  After we graduated, he became manager of a KFC.  He used to give me free chicken wings.  I think guilt ate him.  It’s too late for Donald Trump, though.  He will die as a man child.  I fear it’s too late for the United States of America as well.  How can the corruption end?

The motto of this site is still important to me.  Conspiracies, Extra-Terrestrials, and Good Times.  I didn’t sit down today to write a lengthy piece about politics.  It happened, though.  I was going to brush it off and get straight to the good times.  Otherwise, the terrorists win, right?  I watched a music video just before sitting down to type.  It was a mush up of Judas Priest and Michael Jackson.  “Billy Jean’s Got Another Thing Coming” didn’t set in too well with me for the first few seconds, but I gave it a chance.  I liked it!  I wound up liking the song.  Besides conspiracies, there’s a couple of great threads at Maniac Nebula:  The kitten memes, and the music one. I hope you enjoy the song …

Yours Truly,
Bone Face




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So I sent emails to Maniac Nebula mods.  I hope they show up here and share their stories ...


RE: 2024 Election - Space Ghost - 09-08-2025

Here's mine from last year.  I was backing RFK Jr when he was independent.  Not so sure about him now.  It got a little wacky.  Even when he told the "dead bear story", I still thought he was sane.  I'm not so sure what to make of things now.

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3-25-2025

Maniacs of the Universe,

I am Space Ghost.  I hope Bone Face was being silly when he said I was working on a thesis.  He must’ve been referring to Captain Grifter because, wow!  That guy really put some thought into his statement!

I am backing RFK Jr for president.  I say that with no qualms, but there’s a caveat.  If you live in a swing state, vote for Joe Biden.  I am not anti-Republican.  I would urge you to vote for Nikki Haley as a second choice if she was the nominee.  I am a Never Trumper.

Before Covid came into our world, I had heard that vaccines cause autism.  I researched the issue.  I discovered a speech by Robert Kennedy Jr.  It’s one of the reasons I became a conspiracy theorist.  Decades ago, school children took less than ten vaccine shots.  Today, it’s more than seventy counting boosters.  Turns out it’s not the vaccines themselves.  It’s the preservative they’re kept in.  The correlation is clear.

When Covid finally came into our world, I had studied virology enough to understand issues.  Dean Koontz wrote about the Wuhan biolab back in 1981!  It’s in Eyes of Darkness!  You can’t make this up!  When Covid first came out, I knew the “bats in a wet market” story was bunk.  At the Maniac Nebula, there were lots of videos posted by independent journalist, George Webb.  He explained how the virus was created in Colorado at Ft Detrick.  He was very specific.  There was a couple from that base who traveled to Wuhan, China to participate in the World Military Games in late October of 2019.  That’s how the virus came to be.  There was some kind of covert, sinister cooperation between China and the United States.

Before I heard of George Webb, I speculated that new 5G cell phone systems had something to do with it.  After all, there was new microwave technology going through testing in China.  What part of China?  Wuhan!  Why am I a Never Trumper?  He dropped the ball really bad, and he flip flopped.  Big Pharma created a vaccine in record time through Operation Warp Speed.  Trump was proud of this until his supporters started to boo him at a rally when he said he got a booster.  Then, all of a sudden, he’s Mr Anti-Vaxxer again!  Also, he gave Anthony Fauci a Presidential Medal of Freedom.  Years went by, then he told Megyn Kelly he didn’t know who gave Fauci his medal.  Grow a set of balls, guy!

The George Webb videos have been censored from mainstream hosting sites.  There’s still a few at Bitchute and Rumble.  I encourage you to watch them.  I also got a lot of my information from Kim Iversen.  She still has great virus information on YouTube.  She talks about the war in Ukraine and the biolabs there no one talks about in mainstream news.  I have one problem with her.  She’s a Trump apologist.  I’ve heard Joe Rogan pretend the witch hunt for Trump is real.  I like Kim, and I like Joe, but pull your head out of your ass!  In the sixties and seventies, there was a term called New Left which described radical Marxist groups in America such as the Students for a Democratic Society.  Why New Left?  Well, they were different than the Left of the prior generation.

Trump is the New Establishment.  He is different than George W Bush and his brother, Jeb.  They are Old Establishment along with Dick Cheney’s buddies.  How do I know Trump is New Establishment?  He refused to cooperate with an orderly transition of power!  He wanted to remain Established in Washington, DC!  More presidents need to commit to one-term tenures.

I strongly disagree with Nikki Haley’s stance on Tik Tok, but she was right that we need new, younger faces running for national office.  I am endorsing Robert Kennedy Jr.  Technically, he is an old, white man like Biden and Trump.  Of the three, his ideas are still young.  It’s been a quality of the Kennedy family for a long time.

Yours,

Space Ghost




RE: 2024 Election - Swarth Hog - 09-08-2025

It's me, Swarth Hog.  Some of you knew me as the mod "Grumpy Old Man" at Maniac Nebula.  We'll, I've changed my name back to Swarth Hog.  I feel more comfortable this way.  Demented asked me (and the other mods) to write an essay on who the best candidate for the 2024 election.  Without naming names so much, I concluded that ANY Republican was best.  I've been voting Republican since 1976, and I'll vote Republican in 2028 and 2032 if I'm still alive.  Here's my essay:

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Greetings Maniacs!

It is me, Grumpy Old Man.  Some of you know me as Swarth Hog, the name I went by when I first joined.  I have only changed user names once, though, and I always like to poke fun at myself.  I want to think of my names as ironic, but my detractors would say otherwise.  This is a conspiracy forum and I do try to have as much fun as possible, but it’s hard.

I am Republican and I’m open about it.  I voted for Gerald Ford over Jimmy Carter in 1976 after I turned eighteen, then I voted for Ronald Reagan twice in the eighties.  I have voted for a Republican in every election since then including Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020.  Connotations aside, Republicans believe in republics, and Democrats believe in democracies.

Let me give you a little history.  England was at war with France from 1337 until 1453 in the Hundred Years’ War.  There was a truce for a few decades in the middle, but the animosity was never gone.  It was white men killing other white men.  At the end of the fifteenth century, Columbus set sail to the New World.

Let me digress.  At the Maniac Nebula, I have a reputation for being the moderator who doesn’t believe in conspiracies.  How can it be?  It’s a conspiracy site, after all.  I respond to my critics most the time by saying the issues have always been out in the open.  “You’re just too lazy to look!” I tell them.  George Carlin said something funny.  America is good at war, but not much else:

“Can’t build a decent car, can’t make a TV set or a VCR worth a fuck, got no steel industry left, can’t educate our young people, can’t get health care to our old people, but we can bomb the shit out of your country all right! Huh? Especially if your country is full of brown people!  Oh, we like that, don’t we? That’s our hobby! That’s our new job in the world: bombing brown people. Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Libya!  You got some brown people in your country, tell them to watch the fuck out or we’ll goddamn bomb them …”

He goes on to say the only reason America bombed Germany is they were trying to move in on our action.  So let’s get back to history, shall we?

republic (noun) – form of government in which a state is ruled by representatives of the citizen body

Let’s think about a chess board with its pieces.  There is a king and a queen.  They represent a monarchy.  There are rooks, knights, and bishops.  They represent aristocracy.  Finally there are many pawns.  They represent common folk.

White people fought wars against each other in Europe.  When they sailed across the Atlantic and started to colonize the New World, people were already living there.  They were centuries behind in technology, though.  They had no printing press, no formal maps or universities, and their agricultural practices weren’t as sophisticated.  We got along with the Natives and our modern celebration of Thanksgiving traces back to this cooperative spirit.  However, there were conflicts and it wasn’t just with the Natives.

White people left Europe for a reason.  The constant wars were insane, and the monarchies became overbearing.  Thinking back to chess, what’s left when you eliminate the king and queen as pieces?  You’ve eliminated the monarchy and you’re left with aristocrats and pawns.  Modern Marxists dub the pawns as proletariate workers.  It was inevitable that we would break away from the monarchy in England, and it was inevitable that we would have conflicts with the Natives in America.  The spirit of ingenuity came with us to the New World.  We would forge steel and build railroads.  Of course there would be people in the way who don’t understand collective progress.  These were the Natives.  I am here to argue that it wasn’t racist as much as practical when we set up a republic in lands where the populous was clearly not educated.  Today, we build freeways and confiscate land in the name of eminent domain.  This is not racist, either.  White people displace other white people in order to accomplish this goal.

So Demented selected me to be a moderator knowing full well that I advocate for Republicans.  Over the years, three main coalitions run the party:
  • war hawks like George W Bush
  • religious conservatives like Mike Pence, and
  • economists like Mr Wonderful, Kevin O’Leary

My focus is on economics.

In a world where only pawns exist, a pure democracy makes sense.  Therefore, Democrats should run the country and the rest of the world.  But let us now consider political connotations. Today’s Democrat in power does not believe in democracy.  Hillary Clinton in 2016 was a perfect example of this.  Today’s Democrat wants a coronation during the primary process and is shameless in using super delegates along the way.  Joe Biden did not want to debate Robert Kennedy Jr in this election cycle.  The DNC made it difficult, if not impossible, for RFK Jr to participate in the democratic process through their channels.  And?  Today’s Democrat is a Marxist at heart.  They are trained in class warefare.  Taken to the logical extreme, they are Communist.  If the Republican party was eliminated from the planet, America would be an openly Communist country within a generation.

What’s the logical extreme for Republicans?  Corporatocracy.  We hear the Glen Becks of the world say the GOP benefits small businesses, but those days are over.  Greed, time, and fate have ended the era when small farmers could compete with corporate ones.  If I snapped my fingers and every Democrat vanished from the planet, it would take less than a generation for America to cease to formally exist.  Global corporations would run every aspect of our lives.

Is this a situation of pick your poison?  No.  I grew up with aviation in my family.  My grandfather built airplanes and my father built rockets.  I was groomed to work in aerospace.  It was a good career for me.  Let’s think about Elon Musk at Space X as he refines his ideas of space travel.  When considering a different type of rocket fuel, do you think he calls everyone in the building for a vote?  No!  That would be absurd!  “Calling all janitors, cafeteria workers, and secretaries!  We’re about to vote on whether to use rocket-grade kerosene or liquid hydrogen for our next space ship!  Please make your way to the board room!”

Our government says we are all created equal, but that ends at birth.  We have brains, we have free will, and we make different choices.  We wind up with different results.  We are not all pawns.  In an ideal world, we are all well-informed and a pure democracy makes sense. Today’s common person is not well-informed.  I am a Republican because I believe in republics.  Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence that the King had:

“… endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes, and conditions …”

With this document, a new way of living was born.  We rebelled against the British monarchy, and we tamed the frontier.  When I was a child, I pledged allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.  And that’s not all.  I pledged allegiance to the Republic for which it stood.

Republic.

Keep that in mind.  So Demented has deemed me as the “MAGA guy” amongst the moderators.  I’ve gone to a few rallies.  I am never comfortable with what the religious faction of the Republican party does to its candidates.  Steve Forbes and Donald Trump were respected for their economic knowledge.  If we could leave it at that, we’d have fine leaders.  But they’re forced to pretend to be things they’re not.  When pressed, Donald Trump couldn’t come up with a single Bible verse.  He pretended it was because it was a personal issue, but no one believes he was on the verge of a theological discussion.

I accept that I’m the “MAGA guy” here because I know who I’m voting for in November:  the candidate from the Republican party.  If I live another four years, I know who I’m voting for in 2028: the candidate from the Republican party.  If I make it to 2032, I will vote for a Republican again.  Why?  Because I believe in republics.

Sincerely,

Grumpy Old Man,
aka Swarth Hog


RE: 2024 Election - Captain Grifter - 09-22-2025

This is from me, Captain Grifter, written in March of 2024:

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Maniacs,

It is me, Captain Grifter.  I am backing Joe Biden.  I’ve read what the other mods have posted.  It’s time for me to chip in.  I want to give you my viewpoint, my background, and I want to fill in gaps the other mods didn’t get to.  The 2024 election is important, but I’m not so sure it’s the beginning of the Apocalypse.  Donald Trump has recently said there will be a bloodbath if he is not elected.  There will be no more America.  “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters,” he previously told supporters.

Let’s start with my background.  I am a school teacher working in Florida.  When I was old enough to vote in 1996, I voted for Ross Perot.  I believe in election reform.  I was attending Pensacola High School in 1992 when I first watched Perot interviewed by Larry King on CNN.  He was anti-NAFTA, and he was a billionaire spending his own money.  I liked that!  He used lots of charts and graphs and had a strong America-first agenda.  During a presidential debate, he said:
“You implement that NAFTA, the Mexican trade agreement, where they pay people a dollar an hour, have no health care, no retirement, no pollution controls, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and you’re going to hear a giant sucking sound of jobs being pulled out of this country …”

Perot resonated with me.  I want to mention Pensacola was a great high school, 1992 was a great time to be alive, my older brother played linebacker on our 1988 national championship team, and I looked up to him.  He had voted for Perot in 1992.  I emulated my brother.  I won’t deny he influenced my early political attitudes.

The Reform Party was formed in 1995.  I voted for Perot in 1996, like I’ve said, and it started to heat up in 2000.  By then, I was in college at the University of Alabama, another football powerhouse, and it wasn’t too far from my home.  I became a volunteer for the Reform Party and I loved our candidates.  They were mavericks!  Pat Buchanan, Donald Trump, Ron Paul, John Anderson, John Hagelin, and Jesse Ventura were there to shake the world up!  Of course, things did not end well.  Jesse Ventura became jaded, dropped out, then rebuked the party.  Donald Trump won a couple of primaries then dropped out.  The convention in Long Beach, California was a complete mess.  Hagelin organized a walk-out in protest of Buchanan, who went on to become the nominee after a crazy court battle.

I had a talk with my brother the night before the election in 2000.  “Vote for Al Gore,” he told me.  “I certainly am.  The Reform Party became a retarded circus overnight!  Who’s going to reform the Reform Party?”  I laughed.

On the morning of the election, I had butterflies in my stomach.  Ross Perot had backed Hagelin over Buchanan.  My brother was right.  It was a shit show.  I studied ecology in college and I had read Earth In Balance by Al Gore.  I was young and I had become convinced that the two major political parties were bureaucracies which no longer functioned properly, and they were out-of-touch with common people.  I conisdered voting for Green Party candidate, Ralph Nader.  I remember driving to the polling place having no idea who I would vote for.  I even considered voting for a third-party candidate, Harry Browne.

I got inside the booth.  I remember being slightly confused by the butterfly ballots.  This would play on my mind, later.  I made my decision.  Al Gore.  I would vote for Al Gore.  I took the device in my hand and I punctured the card.  I voted for Al Gore!

Or did I?

All these years later, I don’t know with certainty that my vote counted toward Al Gore.  We had those dang butterfly ballots!  I truly can’t remember if I voted in the correct slot.  And I don’t know if my card wound up being swept into the “hanging chad” heap.  I volunteered to help count them, by the way.  That’s what I did back in those days.  A whole lot of volunteering!

People like me are drawn to conspiracy sites for a reason.  We’ve experienced something weird, and we want answers.  One of our members, Moe Szyslak, lost a friend in the Twin Towers.  Another guy, Technocrat322, has inside knowledge of Directed Energy Weapons, and the Santa Rosa fires.  Another, Ambrose, went to a high school where a mass shooting happened.  Barney Rubble posted real-time updates of the Las Vegas shooting because he was staying at Caesars Palace.  These events turn us into maniacs… if we bottle them inside.

I’m proud to be a moderator, here.  Trump recently said there will be a bloodbath if he is not elected.  In our forum, there are heated debates.  “He’s trying to incite violence yet again!” some say.  “He doesn’t mean it literally!” his supporters argue.  “He’s saying the American auto companies will suffer financially under Joe Biden!”  As a moderator, I am not here to care about who’s right or wrong.  These are opinions.  They are rooted in different perspectives stemming from different life experiences.  Moderators are the referees of social forums.  When I watch NFL football, I often wonder about the personal lives of the officials.  Who did they root for as children?  In an ideal world, you’re not supposed to know.  In other words, the calls on the field are not supposed to indicate any form of bias.  Funny, but there was a great thread in the Maniac Nebula having to do with favoritism toward Tom Brady and the New England Patriots.  It was great!  After Nine Eleven, the Patriot Act was passed on October 26, 2001.  Weeks later, the Raiders were beating the Patriots in the New England snow when Tom Brady fumbled the football, sealing his fate and his future.  New England would go on to lose and Drew Bledsoe would resume as their starting quarterback the following year.

Or would he?

The officials in that game were part of a psy-op later known as “Sacrificial Rams” and they pulled out a rule nobody on Earth ever heard of:  the Tuck Rule.  Did you watch the Simpsons “Stonecutter” episode?  Homer is the chosen one in a secret society.  All the members bend to his satisfaction.  When he bowls and a pin is left standing, Chief Wiggum takes his gun and shoots it down.  When they play pool, they tilt the table so all the balls go in on Homer’s break.  When they’re playing poker, Homer has a crap hand but, wait!  Carl tells him he has the Royal Sampler!

The “Royal Sampler” has become big at Maniac Nebula.  It started with the New England Tuck Rule.  It’s when an authority figure makes up some bullshit on the spot and passes it off as something that was supposed to happen.  The Dallas Cowboys were the victim of this in 2015 when referees decided Dez Bryant didn’t catch a ball at a critical moment against the Green Bay Packers.  The theory goes that authority figures have their chosen ones.  They deliberately have biases, but they disguise them.  The Patriots and Packers are their darlings in the NFL.  Maverick teams like the Raiders and Cowboys are their black sheep.

Quick timeline:
  • 1997 … Project For a New American Century (PNAC) published
  • December 12, 2000 … Scalia Ends Florida Recount
  • January 20, 2001 … George W Bush Inaguration
  • Nine Eleven
  • October 26, 2001 … Patriot Act
  • January 19, 2002 … Tuck Rule Game
  • February 3, 2002 … Rams defeated as heavy favorites
  • 2009 … Department of Defense pays NFL for players to participate in National Anthem
  • September 1, 2016 … Colin Kaepernick kneels in protest of police brutality during Star Spangled Banner

It’s clear to me what happened.  There have always been more registered Democrats than Republicans.  Why?  I read Grumpy Old Man’s take on the 2024 election.  He compares the populous to chess pieces.  The reason there are more Democrats is because there are more pawns than bishops.  There are more pawns than rooks.  There are more pawns than knights.  There are more ordinary employees in the United States of America than managers, CEOs, and corporate presidents.  How do Republicans ever win elections then?  The short answer is, “They don’t.”  Even when Trump beat Hillary in 2016, he lost the popular vote by nearly three million votes.  He lost by seven million votes in 2020.  When I was young, Ronald Reagan was president.  He beat Jimmy Carter in 1980 and he won re-election in the biggest landslide the country has ever seen.

How did he win?

There were Reagan Democrats.  They believed the economy was strong.  During my first job interview, I was asked, “Where do see yourself in five years?”  This is the key.  Even though there are more regular employees than managers, people project themselves into higher positions.  “I will be a manager like you!”  This is a typical response to the “five year” question.  Reagan was inclusive.  He made people believe upward mobility just took a little bit of effort.
According to theory in a Maniac Nebula thread, the “Sacrificial Rams” psy-op began on Super Bowl XXXVI.  It was sacrificial in nature, of course, and many speculated about numerology being that it was the thirty-sixth Super Bowl.  “We can’t allow patriots to be raided!”  This was the mentality behind the Tuck Rule incident.  Someone in the higher ups no longer allowed football to be a frivolous game with hardly any meaning.  There was too much symbolism going on.  That’s why they demanded a tiny United States flag be put on the back of all helmets that season.  The St Louis Rams were heavy betting favorites, but the fix was in.  Neocons in the Pentagon were operating off the PNAC script and the Republican Party was their vessle to implement a soft form of martial law.  Wars have different components.  There is a hardware component which deals with tanks, bullets, airplanes, battleships, and rockets.  There is a psychological component which deals with propaganda.

I have no problem with Christians.  There are many people who believe Jesus Christ is a deity who personally interacts in their lives.  “Christian” is a word, though.  Words change meanings.  Consider these song lyrics:
  • “Let the yuletide gay…”
  • “Oh yes I’m the great pretender, just laughing and gay like a clown…”
  • “Why do birds sing so gay?  And lovers await the break of day?”
  • “To think that only yesterday, I was cheerful, bright, and gay…”
  • “Don we now our gay apparel, Fa la la la la, la la la la, Troll the ancient Yuletide carol, Fa la la la la, la la la la…”

A couple of generations ago, “gay” always meant “happy” but today it predominantly refers to homosexuality.  Words change meanings.  Sometimes this happens naturally, but sometimes it’s intentional.  Neocons put a lot of effort into co-opting “Christian” and “patriot” as words.  The “Sacrificial Rams” thread explains these things.  In college, I read Paul Tillich’s writings on symbols.  Words are symbols.  They are tools.  He who controls the symbols of society controls its people.  I remember when Iraq was invaded in March of 2003.  By then, I was teaching high school English in Sarasota.  One of my students approached me and asked, “Who would Jesus bomb?”  That’s the first time I remember hearing that phrase.  “Aren’t these guys supposed to be Christian?”  But they planned a “shock and awe” attack to look for weapons of mass destruction which never materialized.

Off subject, I wanted to talk about my students.  I was required by law to teach them proper sentence structure.  Subject, verb, object.  They had to understand run-on sentences, and incomplete sentences.  You can see here I don’t give a crap about grammatical rules.  I encouraged my students to find their own styles.  I just wanted to throw that in here before the Grammar Nazis start complaining.

Sarasota was a wild place.  It’s where former governor, Jeb Bush, was involved in a Nine Eleven cover up.  I recommend the book:
Welcome to Terrorland —
Mohamed Atta & the 9-11 Cover-up in Florida
by Daniel Hopsicker

So Neocons took over symbols:  “Christian” and “patriot” as words, and they changed the meaning of the American flag.  When I hear right-wingers call themselves Christian on Fox News and Newsmax, I think, “No you’re not!”  And when they say “patriot”, I always cringe.

“A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.”

I love this quote from Edward Abbey.  If someone were to ask me today if I was gay, I would pause to answer.  I am a straight man who is happy.  What do you mean by “gay”?  And if I was asked today if I’m a patriot, I would wonder where they’re coming from.  Abbey’s assessment of patriotism is where I stand, but I believe the Patriot Act was a dog shit piece of legislation.

Sooner or later, all of this backstory must tie in to this year’s election.  That’s the point we’re trying to get at.  I’m hear to make a case for Joe Biden.  I’m a moderator at Maniac Nebula, keep in mind.  I have seen a lot of content posted by a lot of people.  Let’s consider our motivations, though.  Some people vote for people.  In other words, they vote based on a candidate’s character or personality.  Other people vote for parties.  Grumpy Old Man makes no qualm that his primary reason for voting for Trump in November is his political affiliation.  Between you and me, I’m not so sure Trump will be the GOP nominee.  There are loads of criminal cases and anything can happen at the convention.

Let’s continue with motivations, though.  There are people who vote with their hearts, and people who vote with their heads.  Then, there’s a massive group of people who vote AGAINST people.  I did this in 2016.  Here’s my voting record:
  • H Ross Perot, 1996
  • Al Gore, 2000
  • John Kerry, 2004
  • Barack Obama, 2008
  • Barack Obama, 2012
  • Donald Trump, 2016
  • Joe Biden, 2020

Do you see the outlier here?  Besides Perot, I mean?  I voted for a Democrat in every election since then but one.  Let’s think about how Trump explained his opponents back then:

“So their lobbyists, their special interests and their donors will start calling President Bush, President Clinton, President Walker. Pretty much whoever is president other than me.  Other than me.  And they’ll say, ‘You have to do it!  They gave you a million dollars to your campaign!’”

He was talking about a hypothetical two-and-a-half-billion-dollar factory to be built in Mexico.  Then he said, “And the plant will be built in Mexico.”

Tomorrow is a massive day in American history.  Trump doesn’t play by the rules he creates, by the way.  He said people shouldn’t run for president if they’re being prosecuted for a crime.  He was talking about Hillary Clinton at the time and the possibility they would charge her for deleting government emails.  And Trump scorned Jeb Bush and the rest for being beholden to donors and lobbyists.  Tomorrow is the deadline for him to pay $454 million in bond or cash and it doesn’t look like it’ll happen.  He has been criminally indicted four times.  “I don’t need anybody’s money,” he said.  “I’m rich.”

Donald Trump is morally bankrupt, and soon he may be financially bankrupt.  I voted AGAINST Hillary Clinton in 2016.  Trump came along as the so-called Washington outsider, similar to W in 2000.  I take all of my voting with a grain of salt.  I told you I liked the idea of a rich man spending his own money when I voted for Perot.  In theory, it’s wonderful.  Arnold Schwarzenegger became governor of California in 2003.  He campaigned that we would “open the books” so everyone could see how their tax dollars were spent, but he never did.  I like Arnold, actually, but my point is these guys never keep their promises.  Trump said he would declassify the twenty-eight pages of redacted material from the Nine Eleven Commission Report, but he didn’t do it.  For a conspiracy theorist like me, that was a major failure.  I remember Technocrat322 and Space Ghost were ticked off about that as well.  These pages implicated Saudi Arabia and wound up getting released under Biden.  For a guy saying he was going to drain the swamp, Trump wiffed badly on that one.

Why was I voting AGAINST Hillary though?  I’m a Democrat, but I’m not a straight-ticket voter like Grumpy Old Man.  Some people think the “Sacrificial Rams” psy-op was a joke, but I don’t.  As part of the program, popular Democrats had two choices:  play ball or get persecuted.  Hillary Clinton was shelled out.  Originally, she was a Republican campaigning for Barry Goldwater.  PNAC Neocons saw use in her.  They figured if they jostled her husband enough, she would stand in line.  If they told her to jump, she would ask, “How high?”  She was no different than a captured soldier caught behind enemy lines seen in a video reading a script denouncing the United States.  In 2016, she was willing to go to war with Iran.  One way or another, the Neocons were going get their person elected president whether it was her or Jeb Bush.

People like me threw a monkey wrench in their plans, though.  As a Democrat, I voted for Donald Trump and I hoped I wouldn’t regret it.  I don’t like voting for lesser of evils, but I did it.  I wanted Donald Trump to be a good president.  I told you I was excited to work for the Reform Party in 2000.  Donald Trump was a candidate.  I was hoping things would work out for Jesse Ventura and he’d get the nomination, but I still rooted for Trump.  He said he would select Oprah as his running mate and I liked that, but it never got that far.  Trump registered as a Democrat after leaving the Reform Party.  Bill and Hillary Clinton went to Trump’s wedding in 2005.  They were in tight with each other.
When I voted for Trump in 2016, I thought I might be getting Ronald Reagan:
  • Republican president
  • former Democrat
  • entertainer

I thought Trump could be a great unifier but it didn’t pan out.  Today, not only does he talk shit about Democrats, he rants about Republicans who have minds of their own.  His former press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, had the gall to suggest Trump try to win over non-MAGA voters and he turned around and called her a RINO.  Who’s the real Republican In Name Only, though?  Trump has been a member of three different political parties since I started voting in 1996.  Who can take him seriously as a Republican?

Megyn Kelly famously exchanged barbs with Trump during a 2015 debate.  “Blood was coming out of her wherever,” Trump said.  This past December, Megyn Kelly was moderator again during the Republican primaries. Trump didn’t have the balls to show up to debate Chris Christie, Nikki Haley, and the rest.  When Trump was asked the next day who the loser of the debate was, he said it was Megyn Kelly!  What a total dick!  And today she still toes the line for him!
As a Democrat, I love Lincoln Project ads.  Somewhere along the line, things went off the rails really bad.  It culminated on January 6, 2021.  I liked what Republican Denver Riggleman said about Trump’s supporters who claimed the election was rigged:

“That really is, really, I think, the Island of the Misfit Toys at that point. You have crossed the Rubicon, you jumped on the Crazy Train and you’re headed into the cliffs that guard the flat earth at that time, brother …”
Our loyalties are to the Constitution.  The Constitution is greater than any individual, but Trump posted:

“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution …”

He also posted that he should be reinstated as president.  They pretend they’re for the rule of law but there’s no legal mechanism for this to happen.  His supporters believe he is more important than the Constitution.  You know what it reminded me of?  The 1995 movie, Congo.  The plot centers around finding Solomon’s diamonds in a lost African volcanic lair.  The greed in the movie was over-the-top and it ruined my suspension of belief.  “No one can be that stupid and greedy!”  The worst character was Herkermer Homolka played by Tim Curry.  “Come on, man!  Save your life!  Fuck the diamonds!”  Special gray gorillas protected the mine and killed anyone trying to take its treasure.

That was MAGA to me.  It was a movement which began sane and then turned psychotic.  Wacky Taffy started a website:
Deprogramming Maga

Of all the mods, she’s the one voting AGAINST a person.  It’s the person she facetiously calls Orange Jesus.  Her issues primarily stem from the overturning of Roe vs Wade, bragging about grabbing the pussy, and also the rape allegations.  I’ve checked out the site.  It’s basic and simple right now.  I like it.

I know how it feels to vote AGAINST a person, though.  I did it in 2016.  You might ask, “Is this 2024 election about voting AGAINST someone?  Or are you for FOR someone?”  In this case, that would be Joe Biden.

I want to answer honestly and thoroughly.  First of all, our elections are rigged.  I’ve believed that since I participated in the Florida recounts in 2000.  Electronic machines have been hacked over the years.  In 2004, Walden O’Dell was CEO of one of the companies, Diebold, and promised Ohio for George W Bush.  These machines had no paper trail.  Somehow, lawmakers weren’t allowed to know the inner workings on the pretense of trade secret copyright issues.  California banned Diebold machines.

A solution came from a former accountant.  Athan Gibbs became an inventor and created a new type of voting machine.

“Gibbs also suggested that I look into the people behind the other machines.  He offered that Diebold and ES&S are real interesting and all Republicans. If you’re an investigative reporter go ahead and investigate. You’ll find some interesting material …”

Gibbs died a mysterious and untimely death on the highway.  More about his invention:

“Gibbs’ TruVote machine is a marvel. After voters touch the screen, a paper ballot prints out under plexiglass and once the voter compares it to his actual vote and approves it, the ballot drops into a lockbox and is issued a numbered receipt. The voter’s receipt allows the tracking of his particular vote to make sure that it was transferred from the polling place to the election tabulation center …”

We would not be having these January 6th problems if the Establishment meant to keep democracy sacred and trustworthy.  The voting machines were meant to give a back door to murky people.  The TruVote system could have kept outcome doubts out of people’s minds.  Katy Couric produced a good documentary called “I Voted?” which I recommend. 

So, elections are rigged.  The second thing I wanted to point out is that the Deep State is real and makes the ultimate decisions.  Bone Face is a believer that we shouldn’t vote at all. He said that even showing up to a polling place is voting for a deceptive and corrupt system.  I beg to differ, though.  I still have the same child-like fairy tale belief that my vote counts.  And let’s say it doesn’t.  Let’s say it’s like the 2008 Simpsons episode when Homer is in a double wide voting booth.  He touches the screen for Barack Obama:
  • machine:  One vote for McCain.  Thank you.
  • Homer:  He, he, he, he.  No, I want to vote for Obama. (touches screen again)
  • machine:  Two votes for McCain.

It goes on until the machine says, “Six votes for president McCain.”  And in the 2012 episode, Homer’s walking to the polling place.  “Ah man, not another election! Why do we have to choose our leaders?  Isn’t that what we have the Supreme Court for?” 

The Deep State will pick our leader.  They will do it through banking, the media, the Supreme Court, or suspect voting machines.  They’ll do anything.  One of the reasons I voted for Trump in 2016 is because our site had a pretty member who went by Detroit Rock City.  She was single, and flirted with all the pro-Trump guys.  So there’s a lot of manipulation going on.

Let’s also get something else out of the way.  Joe Biden was known to be a pervert.  He would sneak behind ladies to smell the shampoo scent of their hair.  I’m a moderator so I’ve seen bad stuff.  In the GIF thread, he was standing behind a young Asian girl, possibly eleven years old.  His hands were on her shoulders, then they slid down to the side of her chest.  The young girl looked to her sister and their eyes became huge.  Then there were the sexual assault allegations by Alyssa Milano and Tara Reade.  These things bothered me, and they bothered me bad.

In the same way that Grumpy Old Man will only vote for Republicans, I have reached that point concerning Democrats.  I don’t care about Hunter’s laptop and the crack and the hookers.  I belong to a teachers’ union.  I care about my personal economy and I care about the economy as a whole.  Homer Cocktail said we have an outward kackistocracy.  I believe it.  Biden is seen as a senile, Communist pervert by those who hate him.  Trump is seen as a narcissistic, criminal clown.

Let’s have an economic debate.  The Dow Jones is at a record high.  Republicans will always talk about inflation just like they did with Jimmy Carter, but it has leveled off and other forces are at work.  Republicans say we are “tax and spend liberals” but their supply-side economics got us into the debt crisis to begin with.  I studied Laffer curve theory in college and the idea that tax cuts for the wealthy will speed up economic cycles is actually true in some cases.  It depends on what side of the curve you’re on.  Tax cuts in all cases is asinine.  Senior George Bush ran on a promise of no new taxes.  His party turned against him when he realized something everyone else knew:  Sometimes tax increases are the best thing to do.  And we learned that Adam Smith classical economics will stall and not revive itself without outside help.  John Maynard Keynes illustrated this and that’s why quantitative easing is appropriate in proper circumstances.
End of the day, you’re going to vote for who you’re going to vote for.  Or you’re not going to vote at all.  End of the day, you’re going to believe supply-side economics is the way to go or you’re going to believe in something else.  I can’t change your mind unless, maybe, you’re new to all this.

I will vote for Joe Biden in November.  I believe in strength in diversity.  We aren’t a theocracy so I understand why Republicans have suffered backlash since SCOTUS reversed Roe vs Wade.  I believe in environmental protections. Private industry does not regulate itself well enough.

Here, at the Maniac Nebula, we discuss these issues.  Most the time, we’re civil.  Things get heated and dicey like the time when Hot Chocolate met Duke Donut at a gas station in order to fight him.  But that’s the exception to the rule.  I am here as a moderator to make sure it doesn’t escalate that far.  I am not here to tell you how to vote.  However, I am comfortable telling you which way I am going.  I’m not here to tell you what conspiracies to believe, if any at all.  Fate will decide that.  I’m here to make sure no idiots or bots are spamming threads.  That’s my job.  I’m here to make sure we enjoy talking about conspiracies, extra-terrestrials, and good times.

Sincerely,

Captain Grifter


RE: 2024 Election - homercocktail - 09-23-2025

A lot of us owe a debt of gratitude to Demented.  As far as I'm concerned, he's the OG of this conspiracy forum thing.  Yeah, I know others were around before he launched Maniac Nebula, but he's the first one I can put a face to.  I knew about Above Top Secret before I knew of Maniac Nebula, but it was a faceless place for him.  I didn't know the members too well, and I was just learning the basics of conspiracy theory.

Maniac Nebula started off as a splinter site.  A few guys already knew each other, and newcomers were intimidated to join.  They weren't sure if they'd fit in.  It wound up being a good site, though.  I wanted to talk to Noobs, here.  Something similar is going on with this place.  Conspiracy sites come and go.  Above Top Secret bit the dust about five months ago.  There's a site called IsItDownRightNow and it seemed a lot of people were surprised that ATS disappeared.  There were comments left, and it seems there was no warning.  I had been off the site for years, so I hardly cared.  Someone also commented that someone else ought to re-launch the site.  I've given it thought.

So Demented started Maniac Nebula years ago.  When I first joined, I said to myself, "I want to do this someday!  I want to have my own myBB site!"  More than a decade passed, and he ya' have Sheeple Gateway.  You'll notice, if ya' look in the member list, Demented was the first guy to join.  Where is Maniac Nebula now?  It's still there, but it's more of a blog, now.  Demented says he has a secret myBB forum somewhere, and I believe him.  I just never asked to join.

That's the way things roll in these conspiracy circles.  Did you watch the Stonecutters episode of the Simpsons?  Mr Burns is a big honcho in the Real World, but in the Hidden Cabal of the Stonecutters' secret society, he was a bottom-of-the-rung nobody.  I'm not saying Demented is a nobody, here, but he was content to be "just one of the guys".  I made Madam Cassandra and Pumpkin my first two mods.  Demented didn't want it.  He had too much on his plate.

Last year, Demented asked his mods to write short essays on who we were supporting for president.  I'm a cynical guy, and my take on things is below.  Before I paste my response below, I wanted to mention something about the way conspiracy forums work.  They're like 1st Round picks from the NFL.  Some of them go on to be Hall of Famers.  Some of them turn out to be busts.  Most of them have a solid career of a few years.  Well, some conspiracy forums truly make the grade and last ten years or more.  Some peter out.  Some are solid, but there's always something better.  The original Maniac Nebula myBB site came and went.  It was great!  Members learn how to launch their own sites.  You've probably heard of The Refugees, which folded in 2021.  The guys that launched The Refugees later launched Refugees Tavern which folded a few weeks ago.  There was a site called Give Me Gossip, and that was popular for a hot minute.  I've been asked to launch my own version of it.  There was That Other Place, and nobody likes to talk about it.  The owner was quite sadistic, and he made people grovel.  Then he'd kick 'em out anyway.

The key is learning to do this on your own.  That's when you start to have true human dignity.  Think about being a kid and the places you were driven by your parents.  Sure, they drove you to visit Santa Claus in a local mall, or they drove you to a Six Flags park.  That's nice, and you can't ask for more.  They also drove you to some distant great aunt's house, and you had to sit down and shut up for hours while they chatted about old times.  They drove you to the dentist and the doctor.  You wanted no part of it!  They drove you to funerals where you had to pretend to mourn relatives you never even met.  When I turned sixteen, I was given a total piece of shit car.  I loved it, though, and I explained it to someone in my real life that way.  Launching my own myBB site gave me liberation.  It gave me the ability to drive on my own.  I'm not dependent on parents, and I'm not depended on Demented.  Like I said, we owe him a lot of gratitude.

-- Homer Cocktail

here's what I wrote in March of last year:

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3-20-2024


Hello Maniacs,
Site Operator, Demented, asked me and the other mods to weigh in on the 2024 election.  I’ve done that.
“Remember it’s not about voting harder, it’s about voting smarter. Know who you’re voting for today and what they stand for. Vote your conscious!  Make sure that you can still look yourself in the mirror after you cast your vote …”
Jesse “the Body” Ventura

Take these wise words from a former Minnesota governor to heart.  I’ve voted in many presidential elections.  I voted for a Democrat one time, and I voted for a Replublican one time.  Ralph Nader dubbed the failed, corrupt two-party system we have as Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.  I voted for him twice.

One of my favorite Simpsons episodes is Treehouse of Horror VII.  Rigellian aliens, Kodos and Kang, are running for president.  Kang wins and enslaves humanity.  Soon after, “Don’t Blame Me – I Voted For Kodos” bumper stickers and yard signs become popular.  The humor and moral of the story is that humanity was going to be enslaved no matter what.  Kodos would’ve enslaved humanity just the same.

If you haven’t heard these words, I’d like to share them:

kakistocracy (noun) – government by the least suitable or competent citizens of a state

plutocracy (noun) – government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich

oligarchy (noun) – a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution

Our system has evolved into an outward kakistocracy, but a hidden plutocracy.  It is an oligarchy where less than one hundred people control half of the world’s wealth.  Long ago, there were a couple of political comedies which became prophetic.  In 1985’s Brewster’s Millions, “None of the Above” was a strong voting option.  Fast forward to last month when Nikki Haley lost to “None of These Candidates” in Nevada.  In 1992’s Distinguished Gentleman, Eddie Murphy’s character ran on the slogan “the name you know” and mislead the public on the way to victory.  Eight short years later, George W Bush accomplished the same thing.

When people talk to me about modern politics, I think about World Wrestling Entertainment.  It’s scripted.  We watch wrestling.  Two guys are duking it out.  One guy gets the upper hand, then the referee is distracted by something outside the ring.  While his back is turned, the momentum flips a one eighty as someone enters the ring with a folding chair and slams it against the back of the wrestler pounding the other one making him fall to the mat.  The intruder with the chair skips out, the referee turns his attention back to the fighters, and the guy who got smacked with the chair is pinned by a limp opponent.

So my advice for this election season?  Vote for who you want to!  Vote for someone who makes you feel good!  Besides Ralph Nader, I voted for Tina Fey!  That’s right!  In the 2004 election, two buddies from Yale’s Skull and Bones were the finalists.  Greg Palast and others believed the 2000 election was rigged, and it was happening again.  I happen to think Tina Fey would’ve made a good president so I wrote her in.  That’s what my conscious told me to do!  I didn’t have it in me to vote for Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum.  I didn’t want to vote for Kang or Kodos.  The only thing I would urge you to do is consider that it’s all a farce, now. Please don’t go to work tomorrow telling a coworker, “That wrestling match was bullshit!  Max Blue was getting his ass kicked when one of his buddies saved him with that folding chair! Totally against the rules!”

I once believed wrestling was real, and I still do.  Those guys are genuine athletes.  I don’t believe it’s organic and spontaneous like I used to, though.  I believed democracy was real.  Now?  I feel like Puff the Magic Dragon when Jackie Draper went away.  Green scales fell like rain!  And they haven’t stopped falling this whole millennium.

Sincerely,

Homer Cocktail




RE: 2024 Election - Demented - 09-23-2025

Thanks for the kind words, HC!

Yes, last spring I asked mods from Maniac Nebula to give their two cents about the upcoming election.  I like what they've contributed.  Before anyone replied, here's what I posted:

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3-20-2024

Message From Site Operator:

Election cycle is in full swing.  Three in five Americans don’t want a Biden vs Trump rematch.  We are a conspiracy site, though.  We analyze why the political duopoly has been so strong.  We look at the viability of independents such as RFK Jr.  The Maniac Nebula was created with a healthy skepticism of the Establishment, therefore most the moderators screened have truly unique perspectives on life.  Nonetheless, a point is made to include ordinary viewpoints.
  • Captain Grifter is our Biden advocate
  • Grumpy Old Man is our MAGA guy
  • Space Ghost is backing RFK Jr

The rest of the mods are either undecided or else would rather keep their political beliefs to a public minimum, with the exception of Wacky Taffy.  She is starting her own site:

Deprogramming Maga

Her ideas stem from a Hegelian dialectic where a thesis is confronted with an antithesis creating a synthesis and, over time, becomes the new thesis starting the cycle over again.  In the spirit of Herbert Marcuse, she does not believe any candidate must be affirmed, but rather, she believes it is critical to negate the worst of the bunch.  This would be Orange Jesus, in her eyes.

I let my mods know they are free to create personal profile pages to help you deal with this site.  As the election gets closer and closer, you can expect more content from them to be created.  I personally don’t focus on the candidates individually as much as the conspiracies around them.  They say “follow the money” and that’s what I do.  Who is trying to influence them?  Who is susceptible to mind bending?  Where are they trying to take the country?  These are the issues we deal with.


Sincerely,

Demented

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9-23-2025

I've had a year and and a half to digest these things.  Maniac Nebula has taken many forms over the years.  It was a bulletin board site, like Sheeple Gateway is here and now.  It used to be open to the public.  That became too difficult, so it went into hiding and required recommendations to get in. Members learned to create their own sites, so I considered that to be in the Maniac Nebula network so long as we were on friendly terms.  In its current state, it's more of a blog, and as I've mentioned, I have a hidden site that only a handful of people know about.

At the myBB Maniac Nebula site, we had an ordinary forum, and we had one for special interests.  These were topics about politics and religion, mainly.  These issues can go off the rails, and they're difficult to moderate.  Yesterday, I noticed a new sub forum was created called The Special Abode.  I knew this was a matter of time.  The launch of Sheeple Gateway has been smooth, but over the past week, a few new members decided to create many threads selling different products or services.  In one of the incarnations of Maniac Nebula, this was not allowed at all, but homercocktail is running this thing and he operates it the way he sees fit.  I think he's serious enough about the "Sheeple" part of this site, and I don't think he's trying to implement any strict rules just yet.  Of course, someone came by and posted 28 threads in 6 hours.  That defied anybody's tolerance, and the threads were sent to The Special Abode.

I've been reluctant to post anything political here.  It's homercocktail's site, and I want it to take on its own personality.  With that said, I think The Special Abode is a great place to put in the hot button topics.  I tried to stay objective as a forum operator at the beginning of 2024.  It was difficult.  I don't care that my mods have radical beliefs, as long as their fair about how they treat members.  Me?  As the forum operator, I just want the whole thing to function.  I don't want to compare it to PBS, but some networks at least PRETEND to be objected.  That all ended on Good Friday of last year.  Donald Trump re-posted a doctored photo of Joe Biden hog-tied in the back of a pickup truck.  On Easter Sunday, he spent all day throwing a tantrum and tweeting crazy shit instead of posting pictures of being with his family.  All bets were off, and I no longer spent any energy portraying myself as objective.  I launched Never Trump Blog.

In some ways, I enjoy Never Trump Blog more than Maniac Nebula.  It was a great weight off my shoulders, and I hated bottling my angst inside of me.  At the beginning, it was only me.  One by one, some of the mods would come over and contribute, and they'd leave their names when they wrote commentary pieces.  Lately, we're in agreement about many of the issues so we stopped signing our individual names, and we sign commentary pieces as Never Trump Blog.

Swarth Hog never came over because he's a staunch Republican.  I got into it with Swarth Hog at Refugees Tavern about a month ago.  This is a splinter site that he owned and operated.  I enjoyed Swarth Hog's company over the years, and I still respect him as a person.  He argued for Trump last year because he said he believes the Republican system is the best way to go.  He said he'll vote Republican in 2028 and 2032, provided he lives that long.  I respect that.  My issue with Swarth Hog a month ago was that the entire Republican Party has become RINO--Republican In Name Only.  Not only this, people in the public are saying GOP stands for Guardians of Pedos because of the way they've handled the Epstein Files.  If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck!  Right?  Republicans today aren't behaving as if they want to run a republic.  It's been said before, but presidents preside, and dictators dictate.  There's a whole lot of dictating going on in the White House as we speak.  I respect that Swarth Hog believes in republics over democracies, but that's not how things are run anymore.  They're not even trying to HIDE that they've cancelled democracy and moved on to a dictatorship.  Trump even said something stupid like, "A lot of people are saying they want a dictatorship."  This was after he deployed the National Guard to Washington, DC.  All I wanted was to explain to Swarth Hog that we can clearly and safely call it fascism now.  There is no gray area.

I wasn't alone in this discussion.  People had already started #TrumpDead on X/ Twitter.  It was viral.  I hardly ever drink alcohol while I post online, but my emotions were running high and I had liquor on my belly.  New Year's Eve?  That's an exception!  I get toasted nearly every year for that holiday.  Everybody started dogpiling on Swarth Hog, and I felt bad.  The problem is that he supports a person who never, ever, ever, ever, ever says he's wrong!  The jobs numbers come out, and he fires the person who prepares them!  Inflation is through the roof, and today he told the UN it's gone down!  He approval rating is rock bottom, and even Fox News confronted him about it.  It's 38% approve, 52% disapprove according to them.  You know what he said?  Rupert Murdoch has pollsters who suck!  This is a paraphrase, but the MAGA crowd falls in line with him.  I was sad that Swarth Hog was doing the same, and I was genuinely trying to get him to see that he fell into mob mentality, and he was speaking like a cult member.

This is why The Special Abode is needed.  Today, David Pakman released a video where he interviewed a guy from the Election Truth Alliance.  Stats show the 2024 election numbers radically deviate from statistical probability.  Of course, I've covered this at Never Trump Blog, and I have a page dedicated to it.  There is a lot of vitriol when you start discussing politics and religion with strangers. At Maniac Nebula, I kept it off the the main forum, and I think homercocktail wants the same done here.  Also at Maniac Nebula, we strongly discouraged call out threads, and call outs in general.  Members could refer to each other by name as long as they were cordial.  The thing between me and Swarth Hog got wild, and I apologize.  We're supposed to attack bad ideas, and we're not supposed to conflate or contribute that to being a bad person.  There's a lot going on in the news, and I can do this Sheeple thing for so long.  I have a normal life.  I spend a lot of time at a coffee shop near where I live.  I'd like to offer social commentary on people walking their dogs, or fashion of the women and men walking by.  It's not in my blood, though.  Everything is a conspiracy to me, and I want to discuss it with the World.  In bad moments, I'm full of vitriol just like anyone else.  Nemesis Duck posted a picture of a bull in a China store.  That's who I am.

I will post a new thread to The Special Abode.  I don't believe that place should only house spam from crazy bots.  We can have genuine discussions there.  I'll start a thread about election rigging.  I have a lot to say, but I'll start simple.  I'll post the David Pakman video I watched earlier.  I'll probably post the HBO documentary, Hacking Democracy.  There's another political scandal going on regarding Tom Homan.  He accepted a $50,000 bribe from undercover FBI agents.  I'll save that for later if it's still an issue.  Trump accepted a jumbo jet from Qatar after he said he couldn't be bribed or bought off.  Qatar was allowed special technology in microchips as a result.  The USA is going further and further down the Kleptocracy Hole, and it's disturbing.  I hope to see some of you at The Special Abode, but don't force it.  If you're a Normie, take it slow.  These issues will screw with your head if you're not prepared.

-- Demented